Luisa
Rabbia and curator Pieranna Cavalchini in conversation
PC: What is your video, Travels with Isabella, about?
LR:Travels with Isabella is a dialogue between two
scrapbooks: my collection of drawings and videos, and photographs bought by
Isabella Gardner at the end of the 19th century in China. The sound piece is an
interpretation of the visual work by Fa Ventilato using a collage of sound
inspired by the music at the Gardner Museum.
This is a journey through different moments in life, where days follow
nights as nights follow days. The feeling of the passing of time runs through
the whole video.
What is the origin of the project?
During my residency at the Gardner I had the
opportunity to see Isabella's scrapbook. I became instantly fascinated by it.
The fact that I have never been to China and know very little about Chinese
culture allowed me to see the scrapbook in an almost abstract way. Besides the
beauty and mystery of every image, it was exciting to find connections with
some objects in her collection downstairs. The little Chinese boxes, for
example, reminded me of some of the architectural images in the scrapbook.
What made you gravitate to this
particular form?
The immateriality of video seemed to
be the most sensitive way to visualize ethereal images based on memory and the
past. It gave me the opportunity to bring new life to Isabella's photographs
merging them together with other media such as drawings, movies and music.
What parallels do you make between the year of
Isabella's travels and the present day?
The images from Isabella's book,
especially those with people, have so much life in them, they are records of
individuals and buildings that no longer exist as they did then.
There is also her attention to some
social aspects, so life in her scrapbook is not seen only through a succession
of beautiful landscapes and buildings. There are images of prisoners, farmers,
and small figures working against the vast wilderness of the landscape.
Tell me something about your
personal scrapbook and what made you decide to combine it with
Isabella's?
When I started working I really did
not know what I was going to do but I approached the scrapbook with my
drawings. I thought it could be the best
way to build a dialogue with her, using images instead of words. Images are
open to interpretations because of their indefinite nature. So I started to
choose the drawings to work with, one by one, frame by frame, and I could see
that my drawings were building into a narrative. After a while I realized that
I was using a lot of materials I collected over the years and that it was
really my own scrapbook. It was a pleasant revelation.
Tell me something about the quality
of space in this video and how you constructed specific relationships within
the photographs and among them?
I approached Isabella's photographs
very spontaneously trying to leave my imagination floating through her images.
I did not want to do research into China in 1883, preferring to work with
feelings rather than with rationality. So, I went through many digital folders
of mine and chose each drawing in relation with the background to see if the
connection between the two would create an interesting new dimension and making
another personal story. Skies follow
each other, seem to join together from image to image, to give a sense of days
passing by. It was only later that I noticed that maybe the skies in Isabella's
painting collection (like Europa, to mention one) influenced the colors of backgrounds
on my video.
How does sound affect video?
Fa Ventilato uses music in his work
as a very broad material to explore in all its possibilities: sometimes he even
writes things down with music instead of using words. Other times he cuts and
pastes and stretches sounds as if he was working with a collage. The sound
track is an elaboration of fragments from classical pieces merged with Fa's own
created sounds.
Do you search for immortality in
your work?
I do not think I do. I am rather
searching for mortality.
I struggle to accept that the things
we love will be blown away by time. This present that was past already at the
same moment I say the word, gives me a deep sense of solitude. Rationally I
know it is part of life and there is some beauty about its universality, but
emotionally it is simply tough to accept for me.
However, even if its opposite is
immortality I do not search for it. There is a mystery in the fading away of
things and the ache that accompanies that.
What does it mean for you to show
this project at the Gardner Museum?
This is probably the best
environment for this work because it is
Isabella's house: it seems to be the
right place to have a dialogue with her. The work was inspired by my month's
residency at the Gardner and I hope the viewer will discover connections for
themselves between her collection, her life and my experience and
interpretation of the scrapbook.
What is your favorite work in the
Museum and why?
There are two little drawings that
hold my attention more than others.
One is A Seated Scribe attributed to Gentile Bellini. This very little
illustration seems to represent that feeling of presence and absence that is so
intriguing for me. The small scale of the work amplifies the private atmosphere
in which the scribe is focusing on his writing or drawing. The head of the
figure seems to attract all the viewer's attention, so intensely is he is
focusing on his own thoughts.
The other drawing is the Pieta of Michelangelo.
I love the construction and symmetry
of the image, and the writing that stands up from the Madonna's head. The
meaning of it is surely religious but I like the fact that the writing looks as
if it is her thought materialized on the drawing.
What is your favorite room?
It is probably the Dutch room. I
love the ceiling and I would so much like to see it close up, to discover the
images painted on it. It is a very big room, quite sober with its two big
tables in the middle and all the portraits on the wall that face the center of
the room. Walking around you always feel observed by these faces hanging on the
walls!
Introduction to the Exhibition
Saturday, June 28, 2008, 1:30 PM
A conversation with Luisa Rabbia and Pieranna Cavalchini, Curator of Contemporary Art.
Summer Night
Thursday, July 31, 2008, 7:00 PM /7:30 PM
Gallery talk with writer and critic Mario Diacono
DJ Concert by musician and producer Fa Ventilato.
Animation and Sound: A Two-Part Process
Thursday, September 18, 2008, 7:00 PM
Luisa Rabbia and Fa Ventilato in conversation.
Memory and Invention and Personal Travel Scrapbooks
Thursday, September 25, 2008, 6:30 PM
A conversation with Alan Chong, curator of the collection, and Pieranna
Cavalchini followed by the book launch and signing of Travels with Isabella
by Luisa Rabbia.